Tag Archives: master bathroom

Floor tile!

Somehow, Nik and I still manage to surprise ourselves when we actually get things done in a weekend…and this weekend was a particularly productive one. At some point on Saturday, I actually said to Nik, “But are you sure we want to do this all today? This is a problem because then we’ll have nothing to do Sunday.” And then he glared at me and reminded me that it’s ok to do nothing once and a while. But then we found things to do all day Sunday anyway!

Thursday night after work we got the last batch of mortar mixed up to get the rest of the cement board adhered to the subfloor.

IMG_1871

Saturday morning I sent Nik to Lowe’s to buy the floor tile while I bumbled around the house doing something I can’t remember that seemed important at the time. We were planning to cut a couple rows of tile at a time then lay them in mortar, then continue with the next few rows, but this quickly turned into us deciding to precut all the tiles to size and laying them out with spacers. With all this work happening up on the second floor…and the tile saw outside on the other side of the garage, running up and down stairs to cut a tile while mortar is drying in the bucket didn’t seem like a good idea. So after all the measuring and cutting we progressed to this:

As planned, we left that cut out around where the shower base is, and this will have to be finished once that is in (hopefully this week!).

Here’s Nik trimming out around the toilet pipe – he used the same technique he used in our downstairs bathroom, making thin cuts he could then tap out and use the tile nippers to get the nubs:

IMG_1873

IMG_1874

So once everything was laid out, we got ~18 lbs of mortar mixed up – we used TEC latex modified thin set porcelain mortar, about $20/50 lbs, for those who are curious. We thought 2 of the 18 lb batches should do the whole room. And then we started spreading – we used a 1/4″ trowel, spread it, placed a tile, then added a 1/8″ spacer. Then we used a piece of wood and a mallet to help settle the tile.

IMG_3606

For those who thought I wasn’t “contractor” material – I promise I’m getting close. Next time I just have to wear lower underwear and I’ll be the real deal!

IMG_3604

After our first 18 lb batch, we went to mix the second batch, so I dumped all the water required for 18 lbs in with the first 6 lbs, then realized I only had another 9 lbs of dry powder to mix in. A mere 3 lbs short. Nik agreed to make a quick run to Lowe’s for another 50 lb bag (thankfully only 5 min away), and as he was backing out of the driveway, I was messing with the power drill and the mixing attachment that stirs the mortar, and I somehow dropped the drill INTO the mortar bucket with the 6 lbs of very runny mortar in it. The drilled was immersed – mortar in every vent and crevice. Nik basically just glared at me (not the first time that day…), muttered something incoherent and angry under his breath, and drove away. I dragged the dripping drill to the backyard and hosed it off as best I could, praying I wasn’t totally ruining the motor with the water. Amazingly, it started right back up when I plugged it in. Whew!

So we got the new 50 lb bag opened up so I could get my last 3 lbs out of it, then finished the second half of the tile-setting. Here’s the last tile going in! This seems like a stupid spot for the last tile but we had to do the doorway first since the door had to be closed to do those…but you can’t step on the tile for 24 hours after laying it. So I closed myself in the bathroom and stood where this last tile would be, then hopped over into the bedroom and reached across to do this last tile. Luckily, the spacing worked out pretty well. The grout line around this last tile ended up a smidge large, but I’ll take it.

IMG_3602

So, here is the finished project as of 6:30pm on Saturday:

IMG_1882

IMG_1884

Most of the wonky spots where a tile laid low or high seem to be ok – we knew where to expect these spots from laying out the tiles first without mortar, so we were able to lay a little extra mortar or tap the tile a bit more to even out the corners in these spots.

So onto our supposedly lazy Sunday. We went out for a relaxing breakfast, came back and watched Fixer Upper reruns for an hour, then felt motivated enough to start working on the vanity. Our plan for this was to lop off the bottom portion (where the kickplate is), mount it on a flat sheet of plywood for support, then add feet to lift it higher. We’ll have to put some sort of trim and/or apron piece to cover the plywood and where the feet meet the piece, but we still have to figure that out once we pick out feet.

Here’s how the vanity started:

We dragged it out to a shady corner of our driveway, and Nik used the multitool jigsaw to cut a neat line along the sides and back:

IMG_3603

IMG_3608

That worked out nicely on the sides, but the back had a really flimsy piece of MDF at the bottom so we actually took that side an inch further and added a new more-solid piece of wood to support the back. Then we cut a piece of 3/4″ OSB board (the remnants of what we used to repatch the bathroom floor) to the side of the bottom.

IMG_3609

We attached this piece with wood glue and some finishing nails. We’re aiming for a 34″ tall vanity, which will require legs somewhere in the 6″ range to get it to that height. Then we gave the whole body a sanding with the orbital sander, and I did the drawers and doors by hand. Now we’re ready for primer!

IMG_1880

Here’s a closeup of how the base meets the plywood now:

IMG_1881

We have a few colors in mind for the vanity – we’ll probably use something off white, to brighten up the room since the floor is on the darker side. But we want to actually get the vanity top out of the box and compare colors with that, and wait to see what color shower pan we end up with before we make the final decision.

This coming week will hopefully include getting our shower pan installed so we can finish that last small area of tile. Once that is done, we’ll grout the whole floor – likely with a darker gray grout. I’d also like to figure out vanity legs and trim, because as soon as we get that built, we can move the vanity back into the room and things will really start coming together.

In the Other Direction

The past few weeks has been all demo – ripping things out. For the first time in this renovation, we’ve started going in the other direction – putting new things in. Even though it’s so early in the renovation, it’s always exciting when we hit that point. It feels like real progress.

After the frustrations of last week, we’re past all of that and moving forward. But before we do, I promised some more demolition photos. Last weekend, our goal was to rip out the shower and remove the floor patch, both to check that whatever pipe fixes were under there looked ok, and also to redo the patch job so the new piece of wood actually lined up with the other existing pieces of subfloor in a sensible manner.

So the shower started out as this:

I feebly attempted to smash the back wall with a hammer, and that was unsuccessful. So Nik punctured it with something small, enough to get the blade of the Sawzall into it. Then he cut up and down. We then used the multitool to cut into the drywall a few inches above the insert – to clear the piece of the insert that is install under the drywall. We cut the shower into two wall wall pieces and a floor piece, and dragged them out to the backyard:

Looks simple, but it took us the better part of the day. Then on to the patch with the stupid edges:

IMG_1853

This took a lot of prying for Nik to get it out, but finally it came loose. They had built “fake joists” to anchor this beauty, which were entirely unsound, but did hold the patch down pretty good, making removal difficult. One of the fake support joists actually ripped out with the piece of plywood, and here are the remainders left behind:

joists

Anyways, we decided not to rip out those joists for fear of damaging something else down there, but we would not use them for support for the new piece. Subfloor is actually tongue and groove at each edge, so even the sides that are not supported with the joists under the subfloor have support from the tongue and groove. The issue with our patch is you can’t get a tongue and groove piece into place when there are already pieces on both sides – you have to build from one side to the next so you can insert the tongue into the slot, then the next piece inserts into the groove. The stupid person who did the original patch job didn’t want to deal with this, so they took the easy (incorrect) route and just threw a piece down that was flush on each edge. It did make a patch, but the edges were bouncy due to the lack of the tongue and groove support. So we did buy tongue and groove plywood, but to deal with the placement issue, Nik trimmed off just the bottom side of the grooved edge so that we could get decent support from the top groove edge while still being able to slide the piece into place. We bought 3/4″ OSB plywood for the patch, at $21 for a 4’x8′ sheet. We may be able to use the rest of that board for our vanity, when we mount it higher.

Here’s the final patch job, looking (and feeling) much better!

IMG_1855

There was one edge that was a smidge elevated, but 30 seconds with the belt sander took care of that.

So on to the tile foundation. Since learning that the Ditra stuff was going to be a pain with our 24″ non-standard joist spacing, we headed back to Lowe’s Friday night to purchase more mortar and cement board. We choose 0.25″ HardieBacker cement board, which came to only about $55 for 5 pieces. And we needed a bag of mortar ($21) and cement screws ($29), totaling about $105.  When I returned the two rolls of Ditra I had purchased, I got $176 back, and that wasn’t even including the thin set mortar that this item would’ve required to lay it. So at least we’re in the green on this (initially frustrating) error!

We got the 3×5′ cement board pieces upstairs and played floor tetris for a bit to figure out the best orientation to make sure our subfloor seams and patch job would be best supported with the cement boards. We made a few cuts to the board (you score it repeatedly with a razor blade, then sort of bend it to break it to size) and laid it all out, leaving space in front of where our shower pan will eventually be. We’ll have to revisit this spot once the pan is in:

IMG_1861

IMG_1859

Once we had the pieces ready to be put in place, I told Nik to make his best “it’s time for mortar!” face, and this was the result (slightly skeptical and concerned):

IMG_1862

We went outside to mix up our mortar and this was stressful because we did way too large a batch at once, which put a lot of strain on our drill that was used to mix it – but luckily it survived. And then we got to work spreading – using a 1/4″ x 1/4″ x 1/4″ trowel size, then placing the board, then Nik following up with cement screws. We started on the far wall first, and did the three pieces along that wall:

IMG_1863

IMG_1865

There’s 3 more pieces still to go on the other side of the room that we didn’t have time to get to – Nik had to go out of town to a conference on Sunday but he’ll be back later this week. It’s really a two man job, with the spreading, placing, and screwing the boards down in a timely manner (since the mortar only has about 30 minutes of pliable life). But it’s looking good – and most importantly, feels super solid. Next up will be another layer of mortar and then tile!

Speaking of tile, we brought home pieces of our top choices to see how they look in the room – we’ve selected “Mitte gray” 12×24″ tiles for the floor (the darker one) and “Leonia silver” 12″x24″ tiles for the shower. They’re between $1.79 and $1.99/square foot. These tiles are HEAVY and I’m worried about mounting them vertically on a wall (what if they come crashing off and damage my shower pan, and then I have to wait another month to get a new one!??). But apparently they make mortar that is for large tile or heavier natural stone applications that we might have to use – the porcelain grade mortar we’ve been using says it’s only good for up to 13″x13″ tile. And back  buttering the tiles helps as well. So here’s the tile – the Leonia has some warmer tones in it that I’m liking a lot, and the floor tile is a nice shade of gray that will hopefully hide dust/my hair very well. I’m liking how they look!

IMG_1870The leonia silver also has cute little mosaic tiles in the same color that are part of the collection, so we might use those to make an accent row in the shower. Or pick out some other fancier tile for a small accent row. But the accent tiles are expensive, and require more grouting work so we’ll see how ambitious/poor we’re feeling by that point!